Longer term ttc #1

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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby brownie » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:52 pm

Ha ha!!! Well it's lovely to be showing. I was literally 6 months before I sprung any bump at all, felt like a fraud up to that! Thanks for all the advice and well wishes girls. Really don't want to tell anyone or even talk about it so it was lovely to even just get it out here XXX
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:05 am

Brownie your consultant doesn't recommend folic acid?? I'm gobsmacked, and would absolutely ignore that recommendation (unless he can give a very good reason??) Not worth the risk. When I ran out of the high dose script, I used to just take multiples of the lower dose, although the cost clocks up a little.
Lorraine your scan on Saturday will be emotional - aren't they all!!! How many weeks since your last scan? (Sounds like confession... It's been 4 weeks since my last scan doctor). Bub will have grown so much!
With that way of counting, no wonder the first few weeks fly by! I didn't realise the 14 days of growing follicles are added in. I would have got my due date nearly a month late!! :lol: I agree brownie, it's so nice to share EVERY DETAIL in the safety of this forum. We've told nobody about the transfer because we didn't want everyone knowing exactly when 12 weeks were and waiting for an announcement. It's like a little secrets club!!
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby brownie » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:37 pm

I know meander right? A pretty crazy statement to make!!! He has always been big on the vitamin d but to say no folic just ludicrous.
Test day tomorrow? Dunno how you haven't caved, I'd have the house covered in empty frer packs!!!
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:30 pm

Well, funny you should say that. I was in the chemist today and thought I might as well pick some up so I don't end up not having some for Friday morning. Now they're staring at me, whispering to me, calling to me...! So...I'm 9dp5dt - is it safe to test at this stage to get a pretty accurate result? Is morning better than evening? Dammit!
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsK19 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:04 pm

Oh Meander you poor thing. My advice is wait. I tested on 11dp5dt and got a lovely strong line and only had to wait until that afternoon to get bloods confirmation and it was torture. In that short space of time I started worrying that it was a strong line just because frers are so good at picking up even the smallest amount of hcg and nurse told me I they were looking for 50 plus to be happy with it. I also then started to worry about miscarrying and having all the positivity go down the drain if it wasn't a strong implantation. You name it, I thought it in those few hours. Waiting for days until the bloods would have sent me completely over the edge whereas waiting I got to stay in my little pupo bubble.
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:39 pm

I would have taken a strong line as gospel! I think it's more if I get a half a line, then I'll wreck my head. Ok, I think I'll give the tests to dh to hide somewhere until Friday morning. It's a day early but we've so much on over the weekend that I'll have plenty of distractions!! (She says now...;-))
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsA » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:44 pm

Best of luck meander will be thinking of you xx
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsK19 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:25 pm

Good luck holding out Meander. It is not easy but I thought it was worth it. Have everything crossed for you.
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsA » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:15 pm

Hey girls, have to admit I’m struggling at the moment. Feeling so lethargic and bitter today, just from the minute I woke up. Worried I’m wasting time as realistically we won’t be doing a round until May at this point as promised hubby I’d try naturally twice and serum on holiday for Easter after that. Scared I’m wasting even more time. Hubby is adamant that the investigations have fixed everything and while I want so badly to share his positivity The bitter angrier side of me just feels the issue is clearly me and while my uterus is hopefully cleared I still feel my eggs would let us down as we’ve tried naturally every month since December 2017 bar our two iuis and two ivf rounnds that went awfully because of my eggs. Just want to scream as feel so trapped and let down by myself. Hate how angry its made me. Just feel like we’ll never get passed this point and we’ll always be in limbo.

I’m sorry for putting it on ye But just have nobody else and I just can’t face saying anymore to my mam as heart is broken worrying about me.
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby brownie » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:35 pm

Aw MrsA, sounds like you are having a really rotten time of it, you have my sympathies. My DH used to drive me wild with his positivity. It's all so simple to them, in his mind something got fixed so why won't it work now? And maybe it will?! But doesn't stop you from wanting to throttle him!!!
It is the hardest thing I have ever gone through, it's like grieving for something you never even had, at least that's how I felt.
It's so desperately unfair that some are forced to go this road and for others it just happens without hardly trying. You'll be a stronger person for it and a brilliant Mammy...
In a couple of days the bitterness will start to lift and you will have renewed positivity for the cycle ahead, we can't help it, we just do, why else would we even bother trying after all the disappointments!! Sending hugs, be nice to yourself this evening XXX
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsK19 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:09 pm

I totally understand MrsA. I started trying in Jan 2016 and had nothing left in the tank to try naturally after so many failed natural cycles and 2 failed iuis. After my hysteroscopy I just couldn't give more than a couple of cycles to trying naturally. I think I survived by having my holiday in the middle and having lots of plans in between that involved things I couldn't do when pregnant like a couple of glasses of wine with dinner and soft cheese-a-thons. Having your set date with serum will help too but if you really feel like you don't have it in the tank to try two natural cycles maybe sit down with dh and try convince him to consider going earlier. You are in the best hands now with serum so just try remember you are doing everything you can. Our journeys are just longer than others but we have to stay positive that we will get there.
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby LorraineG » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:23 pm

Oh mrsa...its totally normal to feel like that. No matter what the issue is we tend to blame ourselves and when you keep getting told that sperm is perfect it just keeps compounding the feeling. And it's ok to let yourself feel bitter and sad and unhopeful for a while...it really is just a shite journey. I know may feels like an age away but its halfway through Feb now, march will be a pain but you can start getting meds/bloods etc organised in april and that will help pass it. Huge hugs x
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MrsK19 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:33 pm

Good luck tomorrow Meander. Have everything crossed for you xxx
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby Mrsjune » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:00 am

Hi ladies sorry haven’t been on so af came and went and my sister just had a baby so it’s been a tough week and while I am delighted for her I wasn’t expecting it to hurt as much as it does. Brownie I bought a book a few weeks ago called it starts with the egg it advised 75mg DHEA daily for endometriosis to help improve egg quality I have started taking it I bought it off Iherb, I’m also going to contradict the folic acid thing didn’t specifically take it on my daughter which was the advice I was given and I’m not taking it now either but a lot of the supplements I take have folic acid in them naturally there’s also such a thing as too much of it. Thanks for all the advice on ivf clinics I have a lot to learn I’m definitely going to look into clinics specialising in low amh. Fingers crossed for you meander can’t wait to hear
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:32 am

MrsA you're so allowed to feel rubbish and low. Emotions go up and down, so give it a while and you'll be on the up again. It's such a tough journey, and I don't think men get it at all! They wreck our heads by being blazé or really optimistic, by defying us and not taking any supplements, by being tired at BD time... That's why we surround ourselves with other crazy emotional women! I think what brownie said it so right, we're grieving for a loss that we've never had. It's grief in reverse. With happiness at the end!! See hour you go this first month and if you can't bare any more au natural, then talk with DH.
MrsJune, that's tough. And siblings are even tougher because why did they get the easy fertility genes!?! Hopefully the research will help, at least you feel you're forming a plan in your head. Re the folic acid, I agree you can have too much and if you're (as in one is) getting it through other foods/supplements, you're fine. I came across a lot of cases of spina bifida in a previous job and the impact it had on their lives made me hyper aware.
MrsK, still trucking along? Still nervous or are you settling a bit? Only 6 days to go til the scan!
And only 1 sleep until my first ever real pregnancy test!! After 17 months, yaayyyy!! I'm so happy to even have gotten this far!
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby Babydreams87 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:14 am

I’m so sorry MrsA I know exactly how you feel. I wish there was something that I could say to make you feel better but you feel how you feel and you are entitled to be sad and angry. You have been through so much. But I hope you can use that energy to push you forward and keep you on the baby journey. You are in my thoughts and I hope you know all of us on here are rooting for you
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby Sarah83 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:39 am

Meander im wishing you all the luck in the world testing today xx

MrsA im sorry your feeling this way, its a rotten feeling and im sure we have all been there in one way or another. Its the fear of the unknown and the what ifs. Bear in mind your ivf protocols here were not suited to you & the new protocol Serum will use will optimise your egg quality...so there really is a lot of hope for you. I know ttc naturally feels like time wasting but you really never know, it could happen. And May is right around the corner if not xx

Brownie welcome back hun. Im so sorry about the chemical/miss thats so hard after everything it took first time it would have been lovely for no 2 to be easy. In saying that I would take heart that *something* happened which is definitely a step in the right direction. Are you going to continue ttc naturally without intervention for now or will you do the same as for your little boy? I remember you used intralapids and a few other things x
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:34 pm

Hi folks! MrsA, how are you doing today?
Sarah, good ot see you pop up again. How are you? MrsK, how goes the morning sickness? Is it improving? Any other symptoms?
So, did the frer this morning and it's entirely inconclusive "eyeroll" In fairness, I was up a lot during the night so it wasn't a concentrated pee, barely a dribble on pee #4 since midnight so not the ideal start. Nothing much for first min or 2, then a very slight line over another min or 2. So feel I'm still marginally in the running ;-) put it out of my mind and will try again tomorrow morning. Will report back then! Well cooked steak tonight so "sigh"
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby Sarah83 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:23 pm

Meander a line is a line....I know you would hope for it to be more conclusive. Is today otd? Do you get betas drawn? The thing is numbers start really low and double over 48 hrs or so, so its very feasible you had a late implanter and its only starting to get going now...so frustrating I know. But you are most definitely still in the running! Even today try not to drink much and have a 4 hr hold and test again. And after that you really need to try hold off at least 2 days before testing again to try see if there is any progression x
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Re: Longer term ttc #1

Postby MeanderGo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:27 pm

Thanks Sarah, I've no experience other than seeing pics on here in the last few months! Wondered if it was a late starter - I'm late for everything ;-) otd is tomorrow morning, with betas Monday. I'll see about this evening, thought leaving it a full day might do something with the line one way or another, esp with a good pee! I bought a few so I can try a couple of times before Mon if I really want to go nuts with it! :D
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